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I’m so sorry. I don’t know when my depression started, but ever since it did, I feel like poop all the time and my mom doesn’t really understand why or what I’m feeling. It gets difficult, but you can do it. I’m trying too.
I agree! That is what you have to keep on thinking. Always have hope even when it seems like its been forever with nothing. No one can truly understand but you. You are the one who will get you out of this in the end (but going to someone who knows what they’re talking about really helps. If you’re not sure if you should, do it!).
That is about the dumbest shit I have heard. Thinking hopefull does not cure depression. Try fishoil and zoloft faggot.
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Comment by Corine
2010-02-20 08:38:57
excuse me, but I’ve been struggling with depression for years and years, and thinking hopefull truly does make a big difference. If you don’t beleive things will turn out well, even if you are on meds, if you don’t believe the meds will work, they won’t work. You HAVE to have some hope, sme beleif things will wor out, and that you will feel better.
BTW, please don’t be caling people that name. its a horrible and rude thing to say.
Comment by Finally Doing Better
2010-04-10 21:41:17
I don’t know when my depression started, but after I had a suicidal breakdown on the phone to my best friend, she went behind my back to get me help, going to her school councillor and telling her to get me. I was terrible for a long time, I hated my life, but when I saw what she did for me, I forced myself to hold on for her sake. Slowly, I started to feel hopeful, and that helped. Telling myself that I wouldn’t feel like this forever helped. I held parties with my friends to celebrate milestones–I had big one for the first month I went without cutting. I just held out for the next one.
I became open about it with people outside of my family, even this random guy who was friends with my ex. I figured that way maybe others would know that they’re not alone in feeling so low.
I told my mum at the start of the year during a huge fight. At first she claimed I was faking it, but eventually she came through, and we’re a bit closer now, though my family still doesn’t know the half of it.
A couple of weeks ago my doctor said I could try coming off the meds. I’m planning on having a party to celebrate…with that random guy, who has turned out to be the love of my life.
Hold on. Things will get better. Start by trying to get through each day…each week…Talk to people, even if it’s just to say you’ve had a lousy day. I know it’s hard to think positive in the long term, so maybe try to find little things to look forward to.
Comment by PoisonParasite
2010-05-07 23:56:54
To Corine
I agree with you, to a point.
All that is true…
” You HAVE to have some hope, sme beleif things will wor out, and that you will feel better.”
But that doesnt come together from thin air. You need things in life, things to anchor you to life, things you love in life, and reasons to stay. Physical representations of those things. “Something to do, something to love, and something to live for.” is how it goes i believe. And if you dont have those you wont have hope, or the belief that things will work out (or that its worth working out), or that you will feel better. If life offers you nothing that makes you feel better for more than just a short time, just the… quick satisfaction of sating a desire, then you wont have those things.
Its not as simple as you make it sound, and it irritates me when people say shet like that. That is a very blind faith type of thinking.
I had to save your image because it fit me so perfectly. For years I thought about what would happen if I just let my car drive off the side or had someone hit me. Depression is the worst. I wish things would just get easier.
Hi, I hung on for a reason, but I didn’t know what it was- until now. Now I see what it is like to be out of depression and to be fully alive. Some of it was my responsibility – some of it wasn’t. It’s been a ten year journey -ever upward -always a miracle of life-MINE. PS no drugs needed, just a desire to see the other side. I did it. So can you. I’ll meet you there.
I think some people can do it without medication some people can’t it depends on the person. Their strengths, weakness, and genetics play a lot in the treatment plan that is effective for that person. I would start by talking to a therapist if you’re afraid of meds since they can’t prescribe only suggest. Try different things see what works. I take meds and have for years. I take lower doses than I used to so even with medications you don’t always take them forever. Try what you need as far as therapy and meds go. Best of luck everyone!
When I told my mom, I said it had been for a year. She cried. It’s 5 years now. I went to a psycologist, and she told me that I should go to the psychiatrist. I told her “see you next week” and never went back.
You’re definitely not alone. And to the sadandanonymous – for the longest time the only time I was happy was when I was dreaming and every dream was a slow build up and fall from a bridge to my death. I would wake up nearly in tears simply because it was not real and that I was still alive. All I can say is to try and take care of yourself… it’s not easy, but it’s something you have to slowly work at. Find someone to confide in. Someone you trust or even a stranger on a crisis hotline because if you keep it in it will only lead to a rock bottom you never knew existed. It’s a rough road but you get to choose the path.
There is so much more help out there if you choose to seek it. I just wish I started it 12 years ago (currently 21 as well).
When I was ten I picked my lucky number. I picked four because it was the last time I could remember being happy. By 16 I could no longer remember being four – or happy. I’m turning 25 in two months. To say I’ve never been happier wouldn’t really be saying much. So instead let me say that I don’t think most of the people I know have ever been happier, either. Life is … beautiful.
I’m sixteen, and when I turned twelve I suddenly couldn’t feel anything. The closest to an emotion that I felt was anger, anger at people for not realizing that I was so down, and anger at my parents for not believing me. I felt like a robot, and the one friend that I told this to said that I acted like one too. I tried talking to my family about it and they just said “it’ll blow over.” It didn’t. I dealt with it by just acting crazy, so that people would stop bothering me about why I was so out of it. Eventually at a friend’s house, four of my best friends and I had a long discussion and we all opened up about everything that has ever gone through our minds. Sometimes, talking to someone really is what you need, and you realize that you’re not alone. I began to feel again, and I thank them for bringing me back for my darkest times. It’s been almost two years and I could never be happier.
You know..I never realized I had depression until my senior year of high school when my teacher pulled me aside and asked me what was wrong. Naturally, you want to deny anything is wrong because its so embarrassing and I felt ashamed to feel that way. I have had depression since I was probably in 9th grade and I am now 22 years old. I have learned to cope with it much better but having depression means having to slow your life down and not take too much on. I used to wonder what it would be like to throw myself over a balcony, believed that noone would miss me, and that i would be miserable forever. Then I found friends that had depression and anxiety too..we have always tried to vent to each help each other through it. Another thing that helps are forums for people with depression and trying to look deep within yourself and discover what makes you wonderful. Its a long and difficult process and its something that is a continuous journey but I hope that you find your way to make it through. Good Luck!!
My parents found out about my depression in 8th grade, I’ve been fantasizing about dieing sinse kindergarden, and I’ve felt like a weights been killing me for years and years. I’m 15 now, and in 9th grade. My first vision of dieing or finishing myself off came when I was 5 or 6. I understood death far to well at that age.
I’ve had depression for as long as I can remember. I was diagnosed officially in my teens. It’s a mess trying all different medications and treatments to find the right one. As someone who is “Recovering” (I don’t believe in Recovery since you can always get worse again but you learn to deal with it better) I can tell you that when you find this treatment plan it makes a world of difference. Don’t give up you can do it! There is a treatment for you! When you find it believe me it will be like night and day and you’ll never go back to being suicidal again. Very sad maybe as we all have bad times but not suicidal.
Depression Sucks. But I found a really cool way of dealing with it…Writing. I write in my diary almost everyday. There used to be some days or even weeks and months that I would foregt, and it realy used to frustrate me, but I always wrote when I remembered. Now it is just habit. Writing and reading back over my writings has helped me so much and I feel so much better these days. Writing is not for everyone, but I think it just helped to have a place where I could always vent my unhappiness and frustration.
Also, I am a Christian, and I am not going to preach to anyone, but I found myself get happier as I got closer to God.
I completely agree with you!!! I have a diary and a sketch book. I will forget for days, weeks, months at a time to write but whenever I feel myself getting back into a dark place it’s comforting to have those books to just get everything down on paper and out of my head
Either break out the crayons and draw what your feeling or write out everything going through your head! it helps
I’m in the same situation, and it breaks my heart to know that so many people suffer the way I feel I do. I’m currently 21, and I’ve been in and out of lengthy depressive episodes since i was around 12 as well. It took me up until a few months ago to finally ask for help. I’m currently in therapy and taking medication. Like someone else here said, it’s the desire to keep going that gets you through it. Sometimes I feel that desire, but I’m not giving myself a choice-I just have to keep going.
I really hope everyone here has the desire to keep going. I know it doesn’t solve any problems, but know that you’re not alone. I pray that you all find the outlet and support you all need to get through this. Never give up, your life is worth living, and you DESERVE to be happy.
I did a workshop here in my home town two weeks ago about “Mindfulness”.
It was great. I was able to get grounded and alive all at the same time. I can still feel it and the memory of that feeling makes me smile.
Tonite, I got a message from Bottom Line Secrets<BottomLineSecrets@bls.bottomlinesecrets.com with an article about Mindfulness as a way to stabilize yourself before Depression completely immobilizes you. The article mentions Zindel Segal from the Center for Addiction and Mental Health as the source for the Mindfulness information.
Patrick Hundt
It ain't easy, but anything worthwhile is worth the fight.YOU are worth it.
Just by reading this I burst out in tears. I feel the same way. No one really understands me and no one has really been there for me. At least you have your mom there, but it seems as though mine really doesnt even care i exist. Might as well jump off a bridge right?? NO… i’ll just have to keep going and become the best person I can be and shove it down everyone’s throat and show them how big i have become. No can bring you down. Life is a big fight, a daily fight.
Lorena,
I like your spunk! There is no giving up in you. Yeah!
There is no need to “prove” yourself to anyone except yourself. If you take away all the harsh statements aimed towards others and,instead, use that wasted energy on bettering yourself, you will be farther ahead. Prove yourself to yourself. Believe me when I say:Everyone will notice and be amazed. It worked for me and it still is.
Try the Term “get to” instead of “have to”. It will take the pressure off and bring life into a different perspective. The ultimate destination of life is JOY.
Life is something that you accidently exist. It is not a big fight. It is just something that simpily exist. You making up your ignorant little philosophies on life makes you mentally weak. Choosing to live you life in a huge lie. Because your brain chemistry is a bit off. Like you my friend I suffer from “depression.” It has a chance to be cured by taking prozac or what ever shit SSRI you decide to shove down your throat. Or telling yourself everything is alright. Or the combination of the two. Depression is something you can either embrace or make up hopeful little thoughts. Over analyzing everything is a very big part of my depression. I choose to use it for my advantage. Reading up on metaphysics and the life. Ive been depressed for 11 years. Ever since I was 5.
Depression is a real dissease that effects a lot of people and can lead to someone ending or attempting to end their life. When you talk like that, you don’t know who you are effecting, and if you read your own posting from someone struggling with depression, you could very well have just someones life. Life is a battle, things go wrong and you have to learn to deal with it. Medication has the power to work or make things worse. People who REALLY struggle with depression, they just can’t see things the way you have made it seem. It can make the world seem hopeless and make living a waste of air.
Be nice or don’t comment. I’ve been depressed for roughly 10 years. Life is a battle and a fight, grow up, be kind, if you truly are depressed, help someone.
You call that person a faggot for “thinking hopeful” and then here you say it can be cured by telling yourself it’s alright or with an SSRI and to embrace it. Way to contradict yourself.
You clearly don’t understand the extent of what it does to people. Maybe, you just don’t see the struggle because you found meds that worked for you or some other form of dealing with it, but for most people it takes far more than a handful of prozac and throwing on a fake smile.
- the not so funny thing about this is that i have the same exact thoughts everytime i am in a vehicle. it doesn’t matter who’s driving or the type of car , i always envision another car smashing into the car i am in ; on my side. everytime i think about it , i think about the exact words i am going to utter before i die. i guess the words i am going to say to God. i don’t quite know what this means but i can’t believe that i am not alone. i don’t know if something is worng with me or not.
Oh my, i thought i was the only one. i’ve been struggling with depression since i was 14, now i’m 18 and i finally told my mother… i also drive every morning and wish a truck would run me over. it’s terrible to say, but i’m glad i’m not the only one
I’ve been here too. Since the age of 14 I’ve been dreaming of dying in my sleep. I can’t tell you why it started, I don’t know myself, but it was only when one of my high school teachers asked me what was going on. It’s nice to know I’m not the only person who felt ashamed – I really tried to hide everything I was feeling from everyone. My mum has no idea, and I can’t build up the courage to tell her. I’m 19 now, and I’m living in France and I’m really scared that I’m going to lose myself over here. What keeps me going is knowing that I’m not alone. One day, we’ll all get through this. We can do it, one step at a time x
I’m 17, and I remember thinking about jumping off really tall buildings since I was 9 – 10 years old. In some people it just comes really early, and it’s caused by a number of reasons.
I myself, had no friends at school, and at home I had two parents, one of which frequently hit me, and both of them never talked to me or paid any attention to me. I too wanted to go to sleep and never wake up again.
I just wrote a long long paragraph about what I’m going through right now but deleted all of it. Because I realize my purpose here isnt to tell you all about my story. It won’t help you. What I can do is tell you to please seek help. Thats hypocritical of me to say, because I’m too afraid to seek help myself. But please do. And know that there is ALWAYS someone out there who cares. Even if you think there is no one, I bet you there is. I know sometimes we make ourselves think that there aren’t. I have parents who care so much about me and best friends and all that, and I sometimes don’t believe any of them care. But please seek help. Think about the last time you were happy, even if it was when you were 4. Do EVERYTHING you can to get yourself back to that. Put all your efforts towards that, make that your life goal, make your life something worth LIVING. Call someone, anyone. Even if its a hotline. Just work, please, work towards becoming happy again. And remember, try and smile at strangers. It could make their day, and perhaps even save their life.
letsdothis: There is such serenity in your comment. Well written. wonderful judgement Thank you.
A suggestion to those that are struggling, try this phrase: ” I am!”
glad to know i’ve helped out, if only a bit. i called my school’s counseling service today, and scheduled an appointment. it felt liberating (and a bit scary!) to finally ask for help :]
i know exactly how you feel. ever since my dad was arested in put in jail for raping my sister and me, ive been depressed. he was arrested when i was 11, now im 15. i always think of running away, and killing myself. when im in the car with my step dad .i always hope that we get in an accident, and i die, and he lives. so its his fault im dead. sounds bad right? i know, im getting hep right now. im on medicine. and im cant believeim telling the world this, but everyday seems worse. i become sad for no reason, and i want it to stop.
To everyone who has been brave enough to post their struggles i commend you. I have been to hell and back struggling with my depression and anxiety. I just want to let you know that there is always a light at the end of the tunnel no matter how far in you already are. You life is a precious gift given to you, you shouldn’t be afraid to live it to the fullest.
There is a certain bond that is made between all people struggling with this and just know that 22% of the American population is going through exactly what you are and we love you!!!!!
This may sound stupid, but listen to it anyway: there is nothing you can DO to stop depression. You can’t pop a magic pill to make it go away, and you can’t send it off into the atmosphere by thinking happy thoughts.
Do you want to get rid of depression?
Then stop thinking about it.
It’s in your head that this problem started in the first place and it’s only by getting out of your head that you can cure it. Depression takes time. It takes YOUR time. So stop giving it the time of day. Whenever you start to feel like crap and start thinking how much of a piece of shit you are, turn those thoughts off. Silence them. Give them no voice. Block out every thought in your mind until there is absolute stillness there. Naturally, you’ll be compelled to start up with the thoughts again almost immediately. That’s when you say in your mind, “Shut the f*ck up!”. Say it once and only once and then focus the only energy you have into hearing the silence. Then let it be and move on with your day.
Depression is like a flower. If you ignore it, it’ll die. The only way to keep it alive is to water it, to make sure it gets to see the light of day. You’ve been staring at this damn flower for a decade. Is it making you feel any good? You’ve got a life to live, whether you feel like you want to live it or not. So, let the damn thing die.
Um, excuse me Emily? Depression is an ILLNESS, caused by a hormonal imbalance in your brain! “Ignoring it” is not only impossible, since one of the key issues with depression is that it’s there with you EVERY SINGLE DAY. Ignoring a problem does not make it go away, just as ignoring a wild flower will stop dandylions from growing.
To get rid of depression takes time, and you need to take actual steps to get rid of it. For some people this will involve taking medication in order to try to balance out the hormones. Therapy, and councilling can help you learn new means of thinking.
Believe me, Ignoring depression or pretending it isn’t there is not the answer. Hell, for me at least talking openly admitting what was happening helped. I would even make jokes about it using black humour and stuff: It admitted there was a problem, but told myself that it wasn’t beating me.
Ah, my friend. You read the words and miss the message.
Perhaps you and I are equally flawed in our reasoning, for neither comprehends the whole of the issue. I am as flawed as the next person, running on assumptions and experiences. And, like most people, a majority of the information I know about life and its many forms is probably wrong. But you need not take my advice, for it is merely an offering to you.
You say that therapy and pills are the way, but how many times have you heard people say that the pills aren’t working or that, if the person got any help at all from a therapist, it came after countless therapists and countless years. The greatest issue with therapy is that oftentimes it merely feeds into previously learned behaviors of shame-induced secrecy. Lying, pretending, and, in general, sugar coating our issues is what many people do in therapy. Social norms teach us to keep personal struggles personal. That’s why true healing seems so rare. No one will admit the truth of their illness. If a person is not willing (which most aren’t) to be completely honest about who they are and what they’re experiencing, then therapy will serve no use but to prolong the affliction.
The advice I offer – the relief – is not something borne through time or even through the solicitation of another’s help – not that it need be done exclusive of outside help but instead perhaps in conjunction with what you offer. If done correctly, it can be immediate. It is consciousness. It is awareness. And it is living in each breath you take. You say that getting rid of depression takes time. LIVING with depression takes time as well. And the more time you give to it, the more it’ll take from you. Take away your timetable. Take away your ideas of the future. Never look to it. You will never obtain the future because the future doesn’t exist – all that exists will only ever live in this moment, now… so YOU must live in it to. Stop thinking of the future. That time you think you see will always be tomorrow, always in six months, always next year… always out of your reach. Right now is what you can control and mold, so hold it in your hands. People imagine a time when everything’ll be better. I say don’t do that. Don’t even imagine the future. There’s no point. Even if you obtain what you imagine, it’ll never be exactly as you imagine it. Thought of the future only leads to disappointment in most cases. Just stay in right now. Do I sound crazy? Sure. I’m nuttier than a fruitcake. But I hold by this crap that I’m spewing. Why? Because it worked for me. Needless to say, what works for one will not likely work for the whole, but it’s just an offering.
Do you want to know why I think it worked? – Because it involved forgiveness… the one unattainable trophy for anyone with depression.
I forgave myself (genuinely and unreservedly) for every fault and every mistake which has lain heavy on my mind through years of self-hatred and numbness to the world. I said to myself, “I forgive you for not being good enough, for not being everything I needed you to be. I know you were trying for me, even when you wanted to give up. I forgive you for what you couldn’t see, couldn’t bear, couldn’t understand. I know you wanted more, and I promise that I love you.”
Does that sound like a stupid – and partially crazy – thing to do? Sure. Probably does. But I did it with complete sincerity, and – like with all forgiveness that is given honestly and without condition – I let that burden go. All those burdens, I let them be in the past – the one place which I will never be again, no matter how hard I try… A place which was never mine to hold in the first place.
The specific things which I needed to forgive were simple things mostly. They were things that no one would blame me for. But that didn’t matter because I – me personally – needed to acknowledge them. I needed forgiveness that I had never granted. I would never have been able to move on had I not forgiven myself of them. It’s a personal process. It’s hard, handing over your pain. Oftentimes we cling onto it almost desperately. But to relinquish it, to set it free, is a scary thing. You may like to believe that it’s all chemicals in your head, but if you do you are missing out on the very real emotional aspect of depression as well. Your pill may balance out your hormones, but do you honestly think it’ll change your way of thinking?
In our minds, we all have that record that replays over and over again – a greatest hits of self-deprecating melodies and tirades that never cease to affect and overwhelm and latch onto our minds. We become quite unconscious of ourselves and begin to live on autopilot, “going through the motions” of life. We all know what that’s like. But believe me when I tell you that through the regaining of your own mind, through turning off that record and really seeing and reacting to the world around you, you can find a peace in the silence, which all the noise of those old self-hating thoughts had drowned out before.
You will never meet me and I will never mean anything to your life, so you don’t owe me a thing. You need never think of me again. But as you are here, with me now, take this moment I offer you and hear me, even if you will never use what I say.
Relief CAN be something you find within yourself if you try. The biggest mistake you will ever make is to think the answer lies beyond you. There is no magic pill, though a pill may help. And there is no therapist who will change how your mind works, though they can help you on your way. YOU must change your way of thinking, and if therapy helps to guide you on that journey, then perfect. The fact is, depression not only makes you numb to the world but it makes you hate yourself. And all you can think is why your life sucks and why you hate yourself. But all those bad thoughts, stop thinking them. You have to let that pain go – embrace it, accept it, and release it. It’s okay if you feel it, just don’t think about it. You could be telling yourself how much of a piece of shit you are for screwing up at school because you’ve done it again and again. Turn that thought off. It requires choice, so make the choice. You’ll want to keep thinking it. Take control, though, and no matter how much you want to, don’t let it come back. If you have to fight your own mind, do it. But force that silence. Do that every single time those thoughts come. I encourage you to try it.
You may call that ignoring; I call it being conscious of your own mind. Those bad thoughts, they’re not real, they’re not you. They are your illness. They have never helped you a moment in your life and they will never help you hereafter. Silence them, until your mind is completely still in the moment in which you now exist. Look around you – without thought, without judgment. Just see. If you can do that, then you will have experienced your first real and genuine moment in years, because you will be completely present in it. That… THAT moment is what people go to therapy for years to find. It’s the silence of thought they are seeking; they just don’t know it. Talking about your depression is fine. Dwelling on it isn’t – the dwelling IS your depression. Talking about your depression helps. Thinking about it doesn’t. The thinking about it IS your depression. Talking has helped you because you allow it to help you. That is the key. If you never actually believe you deserve forgiveness and help, then you will never find help because you will never allow yourself to acquire it.
Good luck everybody.
finally doing better,
each person is different. emily’s idea may work you can never be sure. depression is sorta like a trait of thought. if you think ur crap then ur gonna feel like crap. kind of like if you scratch urself it doesn’t really hurt until you notice it. if you keep ur mind occupied then you have no time to think about how much of a fuck up u are or how big of a shit hole ur in. thats kind of what i did when i was in depression. when i was with my friends i was happier more occupied. but when i was by myself, i felt like total hell. just depends on how you go about it. pills may help or thinking about other things. all depends on the person.
i can relate to this secret for so many years i have felt like crap wished something….anything could happen to me so i could escape…nothing has..i want someone else to be responsible for my death so that my family and friends wont feel like they have missed something….i no as bad as that sounds, thats wat goes through my head whether its in a car crash or a murderer on the lose…i can remember feeling like this ever since i was little maybe about year one at school now im in year 11 bac then i would hit or bang my head against things…mum was a single parent dad never did anything for us really i didnt want to tell mum anything cos she had enough to worry bout she still does…yr 6 i would scratch my wrists it wouldnt bleed but there were lil blood spots my class teacher noticed one day and forced me to go to the councillor who i didnt want to talk to at all but they sed unless i did they would tell mum who was currently also stressin bout my older sisters wedding(im the youngest of 5 kids) all experiences of councilors has been bad…forced…. i cant help myself but to hate them refuse them…i bottle everything up knowing it wont help i rarely cry bout anything but wen i do let lose its over everything not jst that one thing… the past hurt from years ago comes to the surface and bubbles over… recent stresses and problems are becoming much to much to cope with i dont no wat 2 do…i have a best friend who i talk to all the time but less now that we live further away and are at different schools but she has jst as much problems as i do and i take the problems of those around me as my own and try to help them which jst adds them to mine as well….this is only part of my story and it feels pretty good typin it out no one knows who i am so this is safe still, private in a way seein as how its anonmyous but now less is bottled up inside me…i feel helpless but time to go act happy as go to call my boyfriend before i leave for work in a place where everyone pretty much constantly sees me happy and full of energy a place where im called smilely…wish i was like that to the core
Anonymous, Please keep writing. I’m “listening”.
I admire your courage and honesty AND your desire to help your Mom and others. That tells me a lot about your heart. We all need people like you, me included. I do not need you to carry my load( I am learning to do that myself) but knowing that there are others out there with compassion for others makes my day a lot easier to handle.That touches my heart and allows it to open a little more like a flower in the sunshine.
Thank you.
Patrick
thanks Patrick i just re-read over that and realised how much more there is and i started to cry. thank-you so much for your comment it made me feel so much better. i feel as if i am able to help others enough then maybe ill be ok but i dont think i am. im glad that this has made ur day easier to handle and your reply has made mine that little bit better too
I’m 21 too. And my depression lasts for 6 years. It’s pretty strange, but as many of us I also think about cars.. We are all over the world. I live on the other side of the planet – in Ukraine. Maybe if you read this or someone would like to talk. here’s my e-mail: ur_darling_joe@bigmir.net
To Michaela:YOU have the right and privilege to change YOUR life. It belongs to you and only you. What would your life look like if you were to change it? Can you make even one small step toward that? In doing that one small step you will have claimed YOUR life.That small step might be as simple as changing your prayer.
I am grateful for your words. I am not alone any more. Thank You!
Patrick
Thank you for being so kind. However, I have tried everything from counseling to meds to whatever you can think of…..and this darkness can not go away.
But I hear you in that I choose my life and how it is going to be but if you have a heavy darkness,life is skewed. I know I do not see things in the ‘normal’ way.
Michaela,
Two pieces of advice that have helped me personally over my many years of recovery after a lengthy period of depression are these:
Show up.
Reach out.
Showing up is your ticket into the process of discovering who you really are. In other words, BE there as fully as you can at this moment in your life.
Reaching out opens your arms to receive- and to give back a part of what you have received as your payment of what you received. That’s the fun part, giving back is such a pleasure. That is why I am writing on this web site, I am giving back. I am so grateful for what I have received-MY life.
I have been depressed since I was thirteen.
I am now 17, it hasn’t changed much, i’m a lot happier
now than I was, but every so often I choke up about
everything that has happened to me. Depression is
a horrible thing to have. ://
this secret fits me so well…
i’ve been depressed and suicidal since around age 6. i wrote up wills…tried to choke myself with pillows (but never with any real intent i think..)…cried myself to sleep. it was bad, but it was passive-aggressive- i wasn’t really going to kill myself, i just wanted to die in this, if it happens i don’t mind type way.
and then i moved, right before 8th grade, and new people, a new place, no friends, making friends, everything just made me spiral downward. ninth grade came, my dad got laid off, my family got worse, more arguing, more money problems, more stress, and i honestly lost it. and i started wondering what the point of life was, why we even bothered living and working and trying for our dreams because it doesn’t matter in the end, we all just die anyway. sophomore year (this year for me) i got worse. i honestly was going to kill myself, for real this time, but i couldn’t do it without saying goodbye to my sister. i wanted to know where she was going to college (she’s a senior) and i wanted to see her graduate and i wanted to talk to her one more time (she was teaching english in taiwan at the time). so i stopped. i waited. and i promised myself that at the end of this year…i’d do it.
it’s the end of the year. my sister is graduating tomorrow. i know where she’s going to college. and i’m not going to kill myself. its been a long battle, but i’m slowly climbing my way back to a state of non-depression. i was talking to my friend in the fall and his story, his own heartbreak and sadness, it made me see- there will always be someone worse off than you. i knew this before of course, but it didn’t really sink in until i knew someone personally who was worse off. i asked him later, what the point of life was, and he told me that while we all will eventually die, we have time , however brief, before that. and what we can do in that time is help others, help to try and make the world a better place for others so they don’t have to go through the same stuff as us. i kept spiralling downwards for awhile, but then in march i visited columbia university. it was nothing out of the ordinary, a normal college visit like the countless others id been on. and yet…this one, this trip to my sister’s dream college, to a city as alive and vibrant, and amazing as NYC, hearing about the future and the possiblities and what life could be like, it made me wake up.
i’ve been working on my depression since then. it’s not easy, i still have my stumbles and falls, the times when i cry and feel miserable and alone,and i just want to disappear…but then i think about Columbia, and college, and the future, and what my friend told me, and I smile.
depression is like a rock, a weight in my stomach, pulling me down, making it hard to breathe. i have my friends and my family and with their support, i can make it disappear. i’ve been chipping away at it since march, and already i feel like i can breathe easier. it’s a long road….but i think i can make it. =]
I hope things keep getting better for you. The only meaning there is to life is the meaning we give to it, and it seems as though you’re on your way. You’ll be the next one with a dream to chase.
And don’t worry if you start to stumble. The past doesn’t matter so much.
Today will always be today… And there will always be tomorrow.
I’m almost 21 and have fought with it since I was like…8. It is a long, hard, road with a lot of bumps–man it sucks. haha But ya gotta try to laugh at some of the things in life. It makes it less intense.
The only thing that is keeping me alive is a singer who lives over 4,000 miles away in Finland, thank you Ville Valo. 3 days ago
I got up at 5:00 in the morning to go out hauling with you, not because I like lobster, but because I like you. Take the hint! 3 days ago
I had sex with my ex-boyfriend, to verify his homosexuality. I can't decide if that makes me slutty or just a good friend... 4 days ago
Im gay but I dnt know what to do cuz if theres hell i dnt wanna be in it. A girl kissed me when i was 9, Im 19 now but im lonely n confused. 4 days ago
I HATE YOU. I'm married to a wonderful, adoring person 4 days ago
I’m so sorry. I don’t know when my depression started, but ever since it did, I feel like poop all the time and my mom doesn’t really understand why or what I’m feeling. It gets difficult, but you can do it. I’m trying too.
I agree! That is what you have to keep on thinking. Always have hope even when it seems like its been forever with nothing. No one can truly understand but you. You are the one who will get you out of this in the end (but going to someone who knows what they’re talking about really helps. If you’re not sure if you should, do it!).
That is about the dumbest shit I have heard. Thinking hopefull does not cure depression. Try fishoil and zoloft faggot.
excuse me, but I’ve been struggling with depression for years and years, and thinking hopefull truly does make a big difference. If you don’t beleive things will turn out well, even if you are on meds, if you don’t believe the meds will work, they won’t work. You HAVE to have some hope, sme beleif things will wor out, and that you will feel better.
BTW, please don’t be caling people that name. its a horrible and rude thing to say.
I don’t know when my depression started, but after I had a suicidal breakdown on the phone to my best friend, she went behind my back to get me help, going to her school councillor and telling her to get me. I was terrible for a long time, I hated my life, but when I saw what she did for me, I forced myself to hold on for her sake. Slowly, I started to feel hopeful, and that helped. Telling myself that I wouldn’t feel like this forever helped. I held parties with my friends to celebrate milestones–I had big one for the first month I went without cutting. I just held out for the next one.
I became open about it with people outside of my family, even this random guy who was friends with my ex. I figured that way maybe others would know that they’re not alone in feeling so low.
I told my mum at the start of the year during a huge fight. At first she claimed I was faking it, but eventually she came through, and we’re a bit closer now, though my family still doesn’t know the half of it.
A couple of weeks ago my doctor said I could try coming off the meds. I’m planning on having a party to celebrate…with that random guy, who has turned out to be the love of my life.
Hold on. Things will get better. Start by trying to get through each day…each week…Talk to people, even if it’s just to say you’ve had a lousy day. I know it’s hard to think positive in the long term, so maybe try to find little things to look forward to.
To Corine
I agree with you, to a point.
All that is true…
” You HAVE to have some hope, sme beleif things will wor out, and that you will feel better.”
But that doesnt come together from thin air. You need things in life, things to anchor you to life, things you love in life, and reasons to stay. Physical representations of those things. “Something to do, something to love, and something to live for.” is how it goes i believe. And if you dont have those you wont have hope, or the belief that things will work out (or that its worth working out), or that you will feel better. If life offers you nothing that makes you feel better for more than just a short time, just the… quick satisfaction of sating a desire, then you wont have those things.
Its not as simple as you make it sound, and it irritates me when people say shet like that. That is a very blind faith type of thinking.
I had to save your image because it fit me so perfectly. For years I thought about what would happen if I just let my car drive off the side or had someone hit me. Depression is the worst. I wish things would just get easier.
Hi, I hung on for a reason, but I didn’t know what it was- until now. Now I see what it is like to be out of depression and to be fully alive. Some of it was my responsibility – some of it wasn’t. It’s been a ten year journey -ever upward -always a miracle of life-MINE. PS no drugs needed, just a desire to see the other side. I did it. So can you. I’ll meet you there.
Pat
I think some people can do it without medication some people can’t it depends on the person. Their strengths, weakness, and genetics play a lot in the treatment plan that is effective for that person. I would start by talking to a therapist if you’re afraid of meds since they can’t prescribe only suggest. Try different things see what works. I take meds and have for years. I take lower doses than I used to so even with medications you don’t always take them forever. Try what you need as far as therapy and meds go. Best of luck everyone!
I’ll meet you there.
If by there you mean a beer factory and a strip joint. Were all the bear is skunked and all the strippers have VD.
When I told my mom, I said it had been for a year. She cried. It’s 5 years now. I went to a psycologist, and she told me that I should go to the psychiatrist. I told her “see you next week” and never went back.
i pray that i die in my sleep every night. when i wake up, i wish i never did. since i was 12. i’m only 15.
i can’t imagine going much longer like this.
i’m not going to say i know how you feel. i’m just really sorry anyone has to go through anything remotely close to what i’m going through.
i’m so sorry for that.
and i wish you luck. you’re not alone! you can do it.
You’re definitely not alone. And to the sadandanonymous – for the longest time the only time I was happy was when I was dreaming and every dream was a slow build up and fall from a bridge to my death. I would wake up nearly in tears simply because it was not real and that I was still alive. All I can say is to try and take care of yourself… it’s not easy, but it’s something you have to slowly work at. Find someone to confide in. Someone you trust or even a stranger on a crisis hotline because if you keep it in it will only lead to a rock bottom you never knew existed. It’s a rough road but you get to choose the path.
There is so much more help out there if you choose to seek it. I just wish I started it 12 years ago (currently 21 as well).
When I was ten I picked my lucky number. I picked four because it was the last time I could remember being happy. By 16 I could no longer remember being four – or happy. I’m turning 25 in two months. To say I’ve never been happier wouldn’t really be saying much. So instead let me say that I don’t think most of the people I know have ever been happier, either. Life is … beautiful.
You deserve it.
I’m sixteen, and when I turned twelve I suddenly couldn’t feel anything. The closest to an emotion that I felt was anger, anger at people for not realizing that I was so down, and anger at my parents for not believing me. I felt like a robot, and the one friend that I told this to said that I acted like one too. I tried talking to my family about it and they just said “it’ll blow over.” It didn’t. I dealt with it by just acting crazy, so that people would stop bothering me about why I was so out of it. Eventually at a friend’s house, four of my best friends and I had a long discussion and we all opened up about everything that has ever gone through our minds. Sometimes, talking to someone really is what you need, and you realize that you’re not alone. I began to feel again, and I thank them for bringing me back for my darkest times. It’s been almost two years and I could never be happier.
You know..I never realized I had depression until my senior year of high school when my teacher pulled me aside and asked me what was wrong. Naturally, you want to deny anything is wrong because its so embarrassing and I felt ashamed to feel that way. I have had depression since I was probably in 9th grade and I am now 22 years old. I have learned to cope with it much better but having depression means having to slow your life down and not take too much on. I used to wonder what it would be like to throw myself over a balcony, believed that noone would miss me, and that i would be miserable forever. Then I found friends that had depression and anxiety too..we have always tried to vent to each help each other through it. Another thing that helps are forums for people with depression and trying to look deep within yourself and discover what makes you wonderful. Its a long and difficult process and its something that is a continuous journey but I hope that you find your way to make it through. Good Luck!!
My parents found out about my depression in 8th grade, I’ve been fantasizing about dieing sinse kindergarden, and I’ve felt like a weights been killing me for years and years. I’m 15 now, and in 9th grade. My first vision of dieing or finishing myself off came when I was 5 or 6. I understood death far to well at that age.
good luck.
I’ve had depression for as long as I can remember. I was diagnosed officially in my teens. It’s a mess trying all different medications and treatments to find the right one. As someone who is “Recovering” (I don’t believe in Recovery since you can always get worse again but you learn to deal with it better) I can tell you that when you find this treatment plan it makes a world of difference. Don’t give up you can do it! There is a treatment for you! When you find it believe me it will be like night and day and you’ll never go back to being suicidal again. Very sad maybe as we all have bad times but not suicidal.
Depression Sucks. But I found a really cool way of dealing with it…Writing. I write in my diary almost everyday. There used to be some days or even weeks and months that I would foregt, and it realy used to frustrate me, but I always wrote when I remembered. Now it is just habit. Writing and reading back over my writings has helped me so much and I feel so much better these days. Writing is not for everyone, but I think it just helped to have a place where I could always vent my unhappiness and frustration.
Also, I am a Christian, and I am not going to preach to anyone, but I found myself get happier as I got closer to God.
I completely agree with you!!! I have a diary and a sketch book. I will forget for days, weeks, months at a time to write but whenever I feel myself getting back into a dark place it’s comforting to have those books to just get everything down on paper and out of my head
Either break out the crayons and draw what your feeling or write out everything going through your head! it helps
I’m in the same situation, and it breaks my heart to know that so many people suffer the way I feel I do. I’m currently 21, and I’ve been in and out of lengthy depressive episodes since i was around 12 as well. It took me up until a few months ago to finally ask for help. I’m currently in therapy and taking medication. Like someone else here said, it’s the desire to keep going that gets you through it. Sometimes I feel that desire, but I’m not giving myself a choice-I just have to keep going.
I really hope everyone here has the desire to keep going. I know it doesn’t solve any problems, but know that you’re not alone. I pray that you all find the outlet and support you all need to get through this. Never give up, your life is worth living, and you DESERVE to be happy.
I’m sorry.
I did a workshop here in my home town two weeks ago about “Mindfulness”.
It was great. I was able to get grounded and alive all at the same time. I can still feel it and the memory of that feeling makes me smile.
Tonite, I got a message from Bottom Line Secrets<BottomLineSecrets@bls.bottomlinesecrets.com with an article about Mindfulness as a way to stabilize yourself before Depression completely immobilizes you. The article mentions Zindel Segal from the Center for Addiction and Mental Health as the source for the Mindfulness information.
Patrick Hundt
It ain't easy, but anything worthwhile is worth the fight.YOU are worth it.
Just by reading this I burst out in tears. I feel the same way. No one really understands me and no one has really been there for me. At least you have your mom there, but it seems as though mine really doesnt even care i exist. Might as well jump off a bridge right?? NO… i’ll just have to keep going and become the best person I can be and shove it down everyone’s throat and show them how big i have become. No can bring you down. Life is a big fight, a daily fight.
Lorena,
I like your spunk! There is no giving up in you. Yeah!
There is no need to “prove” yourself to anyone except yourself. If you take away all the harsh statements aimed towards others and,instead, use that wasted energy on bettering yourself, you will be farther ahead. Prove yourself to yourself. Believe me when I say:Everyone will notice and be amazed. It worked for me and it still is.
Try the Term “get to” instead of “have to”. It will take the pressure off and bring life into a different perspective. The ultimate destination of life is JOY.
Pat
“Life is a big fight, a daily fight.”
Life is something that you accidently exist. It is not a big fight. It is just something that simpily exist. You making up your ignorant little philosophies on life makes you mentally weak. Choosing to live you life in a huge lie. Because your brain chemistry is a bit off. Like you my friend I suffer from “depression.” It has a chance to be cured by taking prozac or what ever shit SSRI you decide to shove down your throat. Or telling yourself everything is alright. Or the combination of the two. Depression is something you can either embrace or make up hopeful little thoughts. Over analyzing everything is a very big part of my depression. I choose to use it for my advantage. Reading up on metaphysics and the life. Ive been depressed for 11 years. Ever since I was 5.
Depression is a real dissease that effects a lot of people and can lead to someone ending or attempting to end their life. When you talk like that, you don’t know who you are effecting, and if you read your own posting from someone struggling with depression, you could very well have just someones life. Life is a battle, things go wrong and you have to learn to deal with it. Medication has the power to work or make things worse. People who REALLY struggle with depression, they just can’t see things the way you have made it seem. It can make the world seem hopeless and make living a waste of air.
Be nice or don’t comment. I’ve been depressed for roughly 10 years. Life is a battle and a fight, grow up, be kind, if you truly are depressed, help someone.
You call that person a faggot for “thinking hopeful” and then here you say it can be cured by telling yourself it’s alright or with an SSRI and to embrace it. Way to contradict yourself.
You clearly don’t understand the extent of what it does to people. Maybe, you just don’t see the struggle because you found meds that worked for you or some other form of dealing with it, but for most people it takes far more than a handful of prozac and throwing on a fake smile.
also your grammar sucks. “life is something that you accidentally exist” wtf? (i’m glad you’ve found a way to cope, but don’t pull others down).
- the not so funny thing about this is that i have the same exact thoughts everytime i am in a vehicle. it doesn’t matter who’s driving or the type of car , i always envision another car smashing into the car i am in ; on my side. everytime i think about it , i think about the exact words i am going to utter before i die. i guess the words i am going to say to God. i don’t quite know what this means but i can’t believe that i am not alone. i don’t know if something is worng with me or not.
Im seventeen.
Oh my, i thought i was the only one. i’ve been struggling with depression since i was 14, now i’m 18 and i finally told my mother… i also drive every morning and wish a truck would run me over. it’s terrible to say, but i’m glad i’m not the only one
I know exactly what you mean. I’m almost 19 now and I only really “came out” with this last year… about four years too late. Stay strong lovely <3
I’ve been here too. Since the age of 14 I’ve been dreaming of dying in my sleep. I can’t tell you why it started, I don’t know myself, but it was only when one of my high school teachers asked me what was going on. It’s nice to know I’m not the only person who felt ashamed – I really tried to hide everything I was feeling from everyone. My mum has no idea, and I can’t build up the courage to tell her. I’m 19 now, and I’m living in France and I’m really scared that I’m going to lose myself over here. What keeps me going is knowing that I’m not alone. One day, we’ll all get through this. We can do it, one step at a time x
I’m 17, and I remember thinking about jumping off really tall buildings since I was 9 – 10 years old. In some people it just comes really early, and it’s caused by a number of reasons.
I myself, had no friends at school, and at home I had two parents, one of which frequently hit me, and both of them never talked to me or paid any attention to me. I too wanted to go to sleep and never wake up again.
I just wrote a long long paragraph about what I’m going through right now but deleted all of it. Because I realize my purpose here isnt to tell you all about my story. It won’t help you. What I can do is tell you to please seek help. Thats hypocritical of me to say, because I’m too afraid to seek help myself. But please do. And know that there is ALWAYS someone out there who cares. Even if you think there is no one, I bet you there is. I know sometimes we make ourselves think that there aren’t. I have parents who care so much about me and best friends and all that, and I sometimes don’t believe any of them care. But please seek help. Think about the last time you were happy, even if it was when you were 4. Do EVERYTHING you can to get yourself back to that. Put all your efforts towards that, make that your life goal, make your life something worth LIVING. Call someone, anyone. Even if its a hotline. Just work, please, work towards becoming happy again. And remember, try and smile at strangers. It could make their day, and perhaps even save their life.
letsdothis: There is such serenity in your comment. Well written. wonderful judgement Thank you.
A suggestion to those that are struggling, try this phrase: ” I am!”
glad to know i’ve helped out, if only a bit. i called my school’s counseling service today, and scheduled an appointment. it felt liberating (and a bit scary!) to finally ask for help :]
i know exactly how you feel. ever since my dad was arested in put in jail for raping my sister and me, ive been depressed. he was arrested when i was 11, now im 15. i always think of running away, and killing myself. when im in the car with my step dad .i always hope that we get in an accident, and i die, and he lives. so its his fault im dead. sounds bad right? i know, im getting hep right now. im on medicine. and im cant believeim telling the world this, but everyday seems worse. i become sad for no reason, and i want it to stop.
Anna, You have just taken the first step to taking your life back by writing your comment. Congratulations. Great start!
Patrick
I dream of that too.
To everyone who has been brave enough to post their struggles i commend you. I have been to hell and back struggling with my depression and anxiety. I just want to let you know that there is always a light at the end of the tunnel no matter how far in you already are. You life is a precious gift given to you, you shouldn’t be afraid to live it to the fullest.
There is a certain bond that is made between all people struggling with this and just know that 22% of the American population is going through exactly what you are and we love you!!!!!
This may sound stupid, but listen to it anyway: there is nothing you can DO to stop depression. You can’t pop a magic pill to make it go away, and you can’t send it off into the atmosphere by thinking happy thoughts.
Do you want to get rid of depression?
Then stop thinking about it.
It’s in your head that this problem started in the first place and it’s only by getting out of your head that you can cure it. Depression takes time. It takes YOUR time. So stop giving it the time of day. Whenever you start to feel like crap and start thinking how much of a piece of shit you are, turn those thoughts off. Silence them. Give them no voice. Block out every thought in your mind until there is absolute stillness there. Naturally, you’ll be compelled to start up with the thoughts again almost immediately. That’s when you say in your mind, “Shut the f*ck up!”. Say it once and only once and then focus the only energy you have into hearing the silence. Then let it be and move on with your day.
Depression is like a flower. If you ignore it, it’ll die. The only way to keep it alive is to water it, to make sure it gets to see the light of day. You’ve been staring at this damn flower for a decade. Is it making you feel any good? You’ve got a life to live, whether you feel like you want to live it or not. So, let the damn thing die.
Um, excuse me Emily? Depression is an ILLNESS, caused by a hormonal imbalance in your brain! “Ignoring it” is not only impossible, since one of the key issues with depression is that it’s there with you EVERY SINGLE DAY. Ignoring a problem does not make it go away, just as ignoring a wild flower will stop dandylions from growing.
To get rid of depression takes time, and you need to take actual steps to get rid of it. For some people this will involve taking medication in order to try to balance out the hormones. Therapy, and councilling can help you learn new means of thinking.
Believe me, Ignoring depression or pretending it isn’t there is not the answer. Hell, for me at least talking openly admitting what was happening helped. I would even make jokes about it using black humour and stuff: It admitted there was a problem, but told myself that it wasn’t beating me.
amen!
Ah, my friend. You read the words and miss the message.
Perhaps you and I are equally flawed in our reasoning, for neither comprehends the whole of the issue. I am as flawed as the next person, running on assumptions and experiences. And, like most people, a majority of the information I know about life and its many forms is probably wrong. But you need not take my advice, for it is merely an offering to you.
You say that therapy and pills are the way, but how many times have you heard people say that the pills aren’t working or that, if the person got any help at all from a therapist, it came after countless therapists and countless years. The greatest issue with therapy is that oftentimes it merely feeds into previously learned behaviors of shame-induced secrecy. Lying, pretending, and, in general, sugar coating our issues is what many people do in therapy. Social norms teach us to keep personal struggles personal. That’s why true healing seems so rare. No one will admit the truth of their illness. If a person is not willing (which most aren’t) to be completely honest about who they are and what they’re experiencing, then therapy will serve no use but to prolong the affliction.
The advice I offer – the relief – is not something borne through time or even through the solicitation of another’s help – not that it need be done exclusive of outside help but instead perhaps in conjunction with what you offer. If done correctly, it can be immediate. It is consciousness. It is awareness. And it is living in each breath you take. You say that getting rid of depression takes time. LIVING with depression takes time as well. And the more time you give to it, the more it’ll take from you. Take away your timetable. Take away your ideas of the future. Never look to it. You will never obtain the future because the future doesn’t exist – all that exists will only ever live in this moment, now… so YOU must live in it to. Stop thinking of the future. That time you think you see will always be tomorrow, always in six months, always next year… always out of your reach. Right now is what you can control and mold, so hold it in your hands. People imagine a time when everything’ll be better. I say don’t do that. Don’t even imagine the future. There’s no point. Even if you obtain what you imagine, it’ll never be exactly as you imagine it. Thought of the future only leads to disappointment in most cases. Just stay in right now. Do I sound crazy? Sure. I’m nuttier than a fruitcake. But I hold by this crap that I’m spewing. Why? Because it worked for me. Needless to say, what works for one will not likely work for the whole, but it’s just an offering.
Do you want to know why I think it worked? – Because it involved forgiveness… the one unattainable trophy for anyone with depression.
I forgave myself (genuinely and unreservedly) for every fault and every mistake which has lain heavy on my mind through years of self-hatred and numbness to the world. I said to myself, “I forgive you for not being good enough, for not being everything I needed you to be. I know you were trying for me, even when you wanted to give up. I forgive you for what you couldn’t see, couldn’t bear, couldn’t understand. I know you wanted more, and I promise that I love you.”
Does that sound like a stupid – and partially crazy – thing to do? Sure. Probably does. But I did it with complete sincerity, and – like with all forgiveness that is given honestly and without condition – I let that burden go. All those burdens, I let them be in the past – the one place which I will never be again, no matter how hard I try… A place which was never mine to hold in the first place.
The specific things which I needed to forgive were simple things mostly. They were things that no one would blame me for. But that didn’t matter because I – me personally – needed to acknowledge them. I needed forgiveness that I had never granted. I would never have been able to move on had I not forgiven myself of them. It’s a personal process. It’s hard, handing over your pain. Oftentimes we cling onto it almost desperately. But to relinquish it, to set it free, is a scary thing. You may like to believe that it’s all chemicals in your head, but if you do you are missing out on the very real emotional aspect of depression as well. Your pill may balance out your hormones, but do you honestly think it’ll change your way of thinking?
In our minds, we all have that record that replays over and over again – a greatest hits of self-deprecating melodies and tirades that never cease to affect and overwhelm and latch onto our minds. We become quite unconscious of ourselves and begin to live on autopilot, “going through the motions” of life. We all know what that’s like. But believe me when I tell you that through the regaining of your own mind, through turning off that record and really seeing and reacting to the world around you, you can find a peace in the silence, which all the noise of those old self-hating thoughts had drowned out before.
You will never meet me and I will never mean anything to your life, so you don’t owe me a thing. You need never think of me again. But as you are here, with me now, take this moment I offer you and hear me, even if you will never use what I say.
Relief CAN be something you find within yourself if you try. The biggest mistake you will ever make is to think the answer lies beyond you. There is no magic pill, though a pill may help. And there is no therapist who will change how your mind works, though they can help you on your way. YOU must change your way of thinking, and if therapy helps to guide you on that journey, then perfect. The fact is, depression not only makes you numb to the world but it makes you hate yourself. And all you can think is why your life sucks and why you hate yourself. But all those bad thoughts, stop thinking them. You have to let that pain go – embrace it, accept it, and release it. It’s okay if you feel it, just don’t think about it. You could be telling yourself how much of a piece of shit you are for screwing up at school because you’ve done it again and again. Turn that thought off. It requires choice, so make the choice. You’ll want to keep thinking it. Take control, though, and no matter how much you want to, don’t let it come back. If you have to fight your own mind, do it. But force that silence. Do that every single time those thoughts come. I encourage you to try it.
You may call that ignoring; I call it being conscious of your own mind. Those bad thoughts, they’re not real, they’re not you. They are your illness. They have never helped you a moment in your life and they will never help you hereafter. Silence them, until your mind is completely still in the moment in which you now exist. Look around you – without thought, without judgment. Just see. If you can do that, then you will have experienced your first real and genuine moment in years, because you will be completely present in it. That… THAT moment is what people go to therapy for years to find. It’s the silence of thought they are seeking; they just don’t know it. Talking about your depression is fine. Dwelling on it isn’t – the dwelling IS your depression. Talking about your depression helps. Thinking about it doesn’t. The thinking about it IS your depression. Talking has helped you because you allow it to help you. That is the key. If you never actually believe you deserve forgiveness and help, then you will never find help because you will never allow yourself to acquire it.
Good luck everybody.
finally doing better,
each person is different. emily’s idea may work you can never be sure. depression is sorta like a trait of thought. if you think ur crap then ur gonna feel like crap. kind of like if you scratch urself it doesn’t really hurt until you notice it. if you keep ur mind occupied then you have no time to think about how much of a fuck up u are or how big of a shit hole ur in. thats kind of what i did when i was in depression. when i was with my friends i was happier more occupied. but when i was by myself, i felt like total hell. just depends on how you go about it. pills may help or thinking about other things. all depends on the person.
i can relate to this secret for so many years i have felt like crap wished something….anything could happen to me so i could escape…nothing has..i want someone else to be responsible for my death so that my family and friends wont feel like they have missed something….i no as bad as that sounds, thats wat goes through my head whether its in a car crash or a murderer on the lose…i can remember feeling like this ever since i was little maybe about year one at school now im in year 11 bac then i would hit or bang my head against things…mum was a single parent dad never did anything for us really i didnt want to tell mum anything cos she had enough to worry bout she still does…yr 6 i would scratch my wrists it wouldnt bleed but there were lil blood spots my class teacher noticed one day and forced me to go to the councillor who i didnt want to talk to at all but they sed unless i did they would tell mum who was currently also stressin bout my older sisters wedding(im the youngest of 5 kids) all experiences of councilors has been bad…forced…. i cant help myself but to hate them refuse them…i bottle everything up knowing it wont help i rarely cry bout anything but wen i do let lose its over everything not jst that one thing… the past hurt from years ago comes to the surface and bubbles over… recent stresses and problems are becoming much to much to cope with i dont no wat 2 do…i have a best friend who i talk to all the time but less now that we live further away and are at different schools but she has jst as much problems as i do and i take the problems of those around me as my own and try to help them which jst adds them to mine as well….this is only part of my story and it feels pretty good typin it out no one knows who i am so this is safe still, private in a way seein as how its anonmyous but now less is bottled up inside me…i feel helpless but time to go act happy as go to call my boyfriend before i leave for work in a place where everyone pretty much constantly sees me happy and full of energy a place where im called smilely…wish i was like that to the core
Anonymous, Please keep writing. I’m “listening”.
I admire your courage and honesty AND your desire to help your Mom and others. That tells me a lot about your heart. We all need people like you, me included. I do not need you to carry my load( I am learning to do that myself) but knowing that there are others out there with compassion for others makes my day a lot easier to handle.That touches my heart and allows it to open a little more like a flower in the sunshine.
Thank you.
Patrick
thanks Patrick i just re-read over that and realised how much more there is and i started to cry. thank-you so much for your comment it made me feel so much better. i feel as if i am able to help others enough then maybe ill be ok but i dont think i am. im glad that this has made ur day easier to handle and your reply has made mine that little bit better too
I’ve always fantasized about getting hit by cars too. I didn’t realize that I might be depressed.
i dream of dieing everyday, i didnt realize that meant i was depressed..
I’m 21 too. And my depression lasts for 6 years. It’s pretty strange, but as many of us I also think about cars.. We are all over the world. I live on the other side of the planet – in Ukraine. Maybe if you read this or someone would like to talk. here’s my e-mail: ur_darling_joe@bigmir.net
http://www.givesmehope.com/
My depression has gripped me that i know my life will never change.
My prayer every night is not to wake up, in the morning.
To Michaela:YOU have the right and privilege to change YOUR life. It belongs to you and only you. What would your life look like if you were to change it? Can you make even one small step toward that? In doing that one small step you will have claimed YOUR life.That small step might be as simple as changing your prayer.
I am grateful for your words. I am not alone any more. Thank You!
Patrick
Patrick,
Thank you for being so kind. However, I have tried everything from counseling to meds to whatever you can think of…..and this darkness can not go away.
But I hear you in that I choose my life and how it is going to be but if you have a heavy darkness,life is skewed. I know I do not see things in the ‘normal’ way.
But thanking Patrick for reaching out.
Michaela,
Two pieces of advice that have helped me personally over my many years of recovery after a lengthy period of depression are these:
Show up.
Reach out.
Showing up is your ticket into the process of discovering who you really are. In other words, BE there as fully as you can at this moment in your life.
Reaching out opens your arms to receive- and to give back a part of what you have received as your payment of what you received. That’s the fun part, giving back is such a pleasure. That is why I am writing on this web site, I am giving back. I am so grateful for what I have received-MY life.
Patrick
I have been depressed since I was thirteen.
I am now 17, it hasn’t changed much, i’m a lot happier
now than I was, but every so often I choke up about
everything that has happened to me. Depression is
a horrible thing to have. ://
To Anonymous: Yes. It is.
Congratulations on your awareness.
Patrick
Unrelated:
A redundant sentence is redundant.
I could have sent this secret in myself – fits me perfectly.
this secret fits me so well…
i’ve been depressed and suicidal since around age 6. i wrote up wills…tried to choke myself with pillows (but never with any real intent i think..)…cried myself to sleep. it was bad, but it was passive-aggressive- i wasn’t really going to kill myself, i just wanted to die in this, if it happens i don’t mind type way.
and then i moved, right before 8th grade, and new people, a new place, no friends, making friends, everything just made me spiral downward. ninth grade came, my dad got laid off, my family got worse, more arguing, more money problems, more stress, and i honestly lost it. and i started wondering what the point of life was, why we even bothered living and working and trying for our dreams because it doesn’t matter in the end, we all just die anyway. sophomore year (this year for me) i got worse. i honestly was going to kill myself, for real this time, but i couldn’t do it without saying goodbye to my sister. i wanted to know where she was going to college (she’s a senior) and i wanted to see her graduate and i wanted to talk to her one more time (she was teaching english in taiwan at the time). so i stopped. i waited. and i promised myself that at the end of this year…i’d do it.
it’s the end of the year. my sister is graduating tomorrow. i know where she’s going to college. and i’m not going to kill myself. its been a long battle, but i’m slowly climbing my way back to a state of non-depression. i was talking to my friend in the fall and his story, his own heartbreak and sadness, it made me see- there will always be someone worse off than you. i knew this before of course, but it didn’t really sink in until i knew someone personally who was worse off. i asked him later, what the point of life was, and he told me that while we all will eventually die, we have time , however brief, before that. and what we can do in that time is help others, help to try and make the world a better place for others so they don’t have to go through the same stuff as us. i kept spiralling downwards for awhile, but then in march i visited columbia university. it was nothing out of the ordinary, a normal college visit like the countless others id been on. and yet…this one, this trip to my sister’s dream college, to a city as alive and vibrant, and amazing as NYC, hearing about the future and the possiblities and what life could be like, it made me wake up.
i’ve been working on my depression since then. it’s not easy, i still have my stumbles and falls, the times when i cry and feel miserable and alone,and i just want to disappear…but then i think about Columbia, and college, and the future, and what my friend told me, and I smile.
depression is like a rock, a weight in my stomach, pulling me down, making it hard to breathe. i have my friends and my family and with their support, i can make it disappear. i’ve been chipping away at it since march, and already i feel like i can breathe easier. it’s a long road….but i think i can make it. =]
Good for you, darlin’.
I hope things keep getting better for you. The only meaning there is to life is the meaning we give to it, and it seems as though you’re on your way. You’ll be the next one with a dream to chase.
And don’t worry if you start to stumble. The past doesn’t matter so much.
Today will always be today… And there will always be tomorrow.
x
crystalstaircase@gmail.com
I’m almost 21 and have fought with it since I was like…8. It is a long, hard, road with a lot of bumps–man it sucks. haha But ya gotta try to laugh at some of the things in life. It makes it less intense.
I’ve never told anyone…Its good to know some people have the courage to let others help them. I am still lost.
Deborah: You have that courage too.
You, also, just told someone -Me and the other followers of Postsecret.
Thank you.
Patrick