And Jesus was a nice young man, if he ever existed, but if there is a hell, it’s part of god’s plan and whoever is goin’, is goin’… and there ain’t nobody gonna change that ’cause otherwise there’s no point in its existence.
Can’t be no heaven without a hell, can’t be no god without the devil. If this “god” character didn’t need to define his existence then he wouldn’t have created the ultimate foil. (Have some sympathy for the devil. He is the ultimate “fall man,” after all.)
I blame my fear of hell on my religious upbringing. Seems no amount of education and clear-headed reasoning can destroy that little bit of superstitious suspicion left in the darkest corner of my mind.
Im not an atheist because I don’t like God ITS HIS FAN CLUB THAT DESTROYED MY LIFE AND OUTLOOK. Raised beligerantly Lutheran, became depressed, insane, and afraid of just about everything. Who needs Satan when you have God?
I love the painting used here!! I saw it in a museum once and I can’t remember the name of it! Can anyone tell me?? This bugs me so much because I haven’t seen that painting in 5 years and I can’t remember what it’s called!
Can’t say for sure, but it looks like Bosch (the last judgment, maybe?). Maybe not, but if you like it, you should look up Bosch anyway. You’d love his work.
I don’t mean to be insensitive but if you believe in Satan and hell, you aren’t really an atheist. I know it seems as though I am missing the point but you need to straighten out your own beliefs before you go around announcing it. If you believe in a hell, by all means, make yourself happier by making your life worthy of going to ‘heaven’. With the corruption of some churches today, you should not let anyone tell you that you are definitely going to hell. Gain some confidence and you’ll be able to cope with and enjoy life more.
As an atheist, I find the fact that you call religion shit, offensive. Frankly, it’s partially because of people like you that society deems atheists as “aggressive and irrational”. Show a little intelligence and maturity. Even if you find their faith delusional, it’s what they believe and you should respect that.
I’ve constantly said that I don’t believe in God. I say its because its not fair that murders and rapists can repent and be let into heaven, just because they’re sincere. I’ve also said that if there is a god he shouldn’t care if you dedicated your life to him, if you’ve lived a good life. I’m terrified that if I change my mind, and I give my life to him, that he’ll use my past thoughts against me and I’ll watch the murderer of my aunt walk in before me.
I’m the same as the post secret sender. Theres always that fear that your wrong. It’s not a matter of changing your beliefs or straightening out your life, its the simple fact that you could be wrong. I know a few Christians who wonder themselves if they are believing in the right one, who wonder if their faith is wrong. Everyone has doubts. Its just harder/bigger doubt when you dont believe in anything.
I know this is pretty late since it’s 2009 and all, but still….I will be praying for you. Maybe try praying yourself. Having someone to talk to is nice.
It says in the Bible that nothing is good if it is not done for God. It also says that when we believe and repent He will never reject us, and we are cleaned every time we ask for forgiveness. It’s by God’s grace that we are forgiven and saved, it wouldn’t be perfect grace if we weren’t truly saved.
But God proves His love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ dies for us. Romans 5:8
Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry, and whoever believes in be will never be thirsty… and whoever comes to me I WILL NEVER DRIVE AWAY.” John 6:35,37
His love for you is too great to fathom.
i’m an atheist because there’s no evidence.
HOWEVER, I think this person’s philosophy is: I’m a bad person/ I’ve done bad things now I’m scared just in case…
Just my opinion don’t shoot me down haha religion is a touchy subject wherever you go!
I was always afraid of going to Hell when I was growing up. Everytime I tried to be saved it left me filled with emptiness, not love. I never felt a thing no matter how sincere I was. If there is a god some people are probably just picked from birth to go to Hell regardless of how they feel or what they do. If there isn’t a God, then it just stands to reason that I felt unchanged.
hey number 3..”if there was a jesus” there has been extensive research and there was in fact a man named Jesus who was born in Bethlaham and traveled spreading the word of God. FACT. so there is no IF. look it up. also, there is hope. when Jesus died on the cross he died for sins that none of us had even made yet. our great great grandparents were not even thoughts, but he was dying for our sins. no one else loves you that much. there is always hope. and even when you deny him, he continues to love you. God puts you through bad things to strengthen your faith. Satin is the one bringing you down, God out everything into each and everyone of us, he does not do things to hurt us. God bless you, and i too will be praying for you.
What I want to know is if we assume God exists, why do we also have to assume Hell exists? I have many dear friends who are muslim, christian, jewish, buddhist, and many other different religions. Personally, I don’t believe that a loving God would send someone to “hell” because they have a different belief system. I think God can forgive, and God is love. Wherever love is thats where the divine is present–in a friendship, a marriage, even the love for a pet. I do believe in God, but hell to me is a fairytale meant to scare little kids into behaving.
It’s okay, honey. God and Jesus love you, even if you don’t believe in them. God loves all of His children. And Hell is for people who have done serious wrong-murdered, raped, molested children, terrorists. Even if you don’t believe in them, Jesus and God love you.
I did not read all the comments above so I am not really quiet sure of what they are saying so I’m just going to throw my thoughts out there. I am also an atheist. It did not start over night. I had my doubts and fears as a born and raised catholic. when I get out there and tell people that I am an atheist, I also was scared that I’m going to hell, bad things are going to happen and yada yada yada. Nothing happened. Life still went like the way it should. My dog still shits in my backyard, My coffee from starbucks are still amazing like always and my classes still starts at 7 in the morning. Thoughts of being an atheist started about when the church started preaching things that are against the common behavior of the human being. I’ve read a lot of articles, documentaries and researches about brainwashing and you’d be surprise with its similarities and how the religion push their beliefs to ya. I’m not gonna tell u to be atheist, and im not gonna tell u to stay christian but in the end of the day, it is your life. Do what makes you happy.
I think I’m a Christian. I might be a heretic…I know a secret.
It doesn’t matter what you believe. God’s not going to ditch you because you called bullshit or lived in a country that outlaws organized religion. Humans aren’t even that petty. Jesus died to redeem us, and he did it right. So smile, kiss your mother, and sleep easy. See you in heaven.
Religion was first concieved as a tool to encourage correct attitudes.
It was invented to suggest that there was a power greater than any earthly power who would know all and be the judge of all; that good would be rewarded and evil punished in the end, however bad things looked in the here and now.
It’s a good belief system but only works on those who believe it. Truly bad people tend not to care and do bad things anyway.
Either that or they get a job in the church (or politics) ?
It doesn’t have to happen like that. Hell is for an eternity, but you still have hope here and His name is Jesus. I’ll be praying for you.
I do that too.
And Jesus was a nice young man, if he ever existed, but if there is a hell, it’s part of god’s plan and whoever is goin’, is goin’… and there ain’t nobody gonna change that ’cause otherwise there’s no point in its existence.
Can’t be no heaven without a hell, can’t be no god without the devil. If this “god” character didn’t need to define his existence then he wouldn’t have created the ultimate foil. (Have some sympathy for the devil. He is the ultimate “fall man,” after all.)
I blame my fear of hell on my religious upbringing. Seems no amount of education and clear-headed reasoning can destroy that little bit of superstitious suspicion left in the darkest corner of my mind.
Of all the secrets I have ever read on here, this one fits me the most.
Im not an atheist because I don’t like God ITS HIS FAN CLUB THAT DESTROYED MY LIFE AND OUTLOOK. Raised beligerantly Lutheran, became depressed, insane, and afraid of just about everything. Who needs Satan when you have God?
This is how I’ve felt since I was 12. I’m glad others feel this way.
I love the painting used here!! I saw it in a museum once and I can’t remember the name of it! Can anyone tell me?? This bugs me so much because I haven’t seen that painting in 5 years and I can’t remember what it’s called!
I worship the God you speak of, but your last sentence is a beautiful human sentiment. If it’s not a quote, it should be quoted.
Can’t say for sure, but it looks like Bosch (the last judgment, maybe?). Maybe not, but if you like it, you should look up Bosch anyway. You’d love his work.
lol there is no jesus.. i am jesus btw.. and its all a story… none of that shit is true.
You’re an asshole.
I don’t mean to be insensitive but if you believe in Satan and hell, you aren’t really an atheist. I know it seems as though I am missing the point but you need to straighten out your own beliefs before you go around announcing it. If you believe in a hell, by all means, make yourself happier by making your life worthy of going to ‘heaven’. With the corruption of some churches today, you should not let anyone tell you that you are definitely going to hell. Gain some confidence and you’ll be able to cope with and enjoy life more.
As an atheist, I find the fact that you call religion shit, offensive. Frankly, it’s partially because of people like you that society deems atheists as “aggressive and irrational”. Show a little intelligence and maturity. Even if you find their faith delusional, it’s what they believe and you should respect that.
I’ve constantly said that I don’t believe in God. I say its because its not fair that murders and rapists can repent and be let into heaven, just because they’re sincere. I’ve also said that if there is a god he shouldn’t care if you dedicated your life to him, if you’ve lived a good life. I’m terrified that if I change my mind, and I give my life to him, that he’ll use my past thoughts against me and I’ll watch the murderer of my aunt walk in before me.
I’m the same as the post secret sender. Theres always that fear that your wrong. It’s not a matter of changing your beliefs or straightening out your life, its the simple fact that you could be wrong. I know a few Christians who wonder themselves if they are believing in the right one, who wonder if their faith is wrong. Everyone has doubts. Its just harder/bigger doubt when you dont believe in anything.
I know this is pretty late since it’s 2009 and all, but still….I will be praying for you. Maybe try praying yourself. Having someone to talk to is nice.
And I didn’t intend that to sound rude. Sorry if it did.
Whole lotta Pascal’s Wager going on in here. Lighten up guys: God isn’t real, and there’s no hell.
It says in the Bible that nothing is good if it is not done for God. It also says that when we believe and repent He will never reject us, and we are cleaned every time we ask for forgiveness. It’s by God’s grace that we are forgiven and saved, it wouldn’t be perfect grace if we weren’t truly saved.
But God proves His love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ dies for us. Romans 5:8
Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry, and whoever believes in be will never be thirsty… and whoever comes to me I WILL NEVER DRIVE AWAY.” John 6:35,37
His love for you is too great to fathom.
i’m an atheist because there’s no evidence.
HOWEVER, I think this person’s philosophy is: I’m a bad person/ I’ve done bad things now I’m scared just in case…
Just my opinion don’t shoot me down haha religion is a touchy subject wherever you go!
I was always afraid of going to Hell when I was growing up. Everytime I tried to be saved it left me filled with emptiness, not love. I never felt a thing no matter how sincere I was. If there is a god some people are probably just picked from birth to go to Hell regardless of how they feel or what they do. If there isn’t a God, then it just stands to reason that I felt unchanged.
Hell’s fake
heaven is also fake, along with any god ever been spoken about
hey number 3..”if there was a jesus” there has been extensive research and there was in fact a man named Jesus who was born in Bethlaham and traveled spreading the word of God. FACT. so there is no IF. look it up. also, there is hope. when Jesus died on the cross he died for sins that none of us had even made yet. our great great grandparents were not even thoughts, but he was dying for our sins. no one else loves you that much. there is always hope. and even when you deny him, he continues to love you. God puts you through bad things to strengthen your faith. Satin is the one bringing you down, God out everything into each and everyone of us, he does not do things to hurt us. God bless you, and i too will be praying for you.
What I want to know is if we assume God exists, why do we also have to assume Hell exists? I have many dear friends who are muslim, christian, jewish, buddhist, and many other different religions. Personally, I don’t believe that a loving God would send someone to “hell” because they have a different belief system. I think God can forgive, and God is love. Wherever love is thats where the divine is present–in a friendship, a marriage, even the love for a pet. I do believe in God, but hell to me is a fairytale meant to scare little kids into behaving.
It’s okay, honey. God and Jesus love you, even if you don’t believe in them. God loves all of His children. And Hell is for people who have done serious wrong-murdered, raped, molested children, terrorists. Even if you don’t believe in them, Jesus and God love you.
I did not read all the comments above so I am not really quiet sure of what they are saying so I’m just going to throw my thoughts out there. I am also an atheist. It did not start over night. I had my doubts and fears as a born and raised catholic. when I get out there and tell people that I am an atheist, I also was scared that I’m going to hell, bad things are going to happen and yada yada yada. Nothing happened. Life still went like the way it should. My dog still shits in my backyard, My coffee from starbucks are still amazing like always and my classes still starts at 7 in the morning. Thoughts of being an atheist started about when the church started preaching things that are against the common behavior of the human being. I’ve read a lot of articles, documentaries and researches about brainwashing and you’d be surprise with its similarities and how the religion push their beliefs to ya. I’m not gonna tell u to be atheist, and im not gonna tell u to stay christian but in the end of the day, it is your life. Do what makes you happy.
I think I’m a Christian. I might be a heretic…I know a secret.
It doesn’t matter what you believe. God’s not going to ditch you because you called bullshit or lived in a country that outlaws organized religion. Humans aren’t even that petty. Jesus died to redeem us, and he did it right. So smile, kiss your mother, and sleep easy. See you in heaven.
Shit, I’m mailing this one in!
Religion was first concieved as a tool to encourage correct attitudes.
It was invented to suggest that there was a power greater than any earthly power who would know all and be the judge of all; that good would be rewarded and evil punished in the end, however bad things looked in the here and now.
It’s a good belief system but only works on those who believe it. Truly bad people tend not to care and do bad things anyway.
Either that or they get a job in the church (or politics) ?